Hello, all! Here are four pdf files that chart and describe our Crnkovich/Crnković/Cernković/Czernkovich and Rubetić/Vučinovec ancestors: Crnkovich descendants to 10 generations: The descendants of Mato Czernkovich to 10 generations Crnkovich descendants chart: the descendants of Mato Czernkovich in a genealogical tree Rubetić descendants to 7 generations: The descendants of Juraj Rubetić to 7 generations. This list overlaps the Crnkovich descendants in the fifth generation. Rubetić descendants chart: the descendants of Juraj Rubetić in a genealogical tree I have a lot more information than what is in these summaries, especially on those people who were [un]lucky enough to get their names in the newspapers or in books. Nearly all of the sources from the Old Country are in Croatian, Latin, German, and occasionally in Hungarian. They include church records, city directory information, cemetery records and the like. I have some obituaries and encyclopedia entries, as well. Of those I have translations of pieces about Cvjetko Rubetić, the Zagreb Cathedral canon and Croatian M.P., for Julije Gollner, and for Branko Gršković. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to finish transcribing the recorded conversation I had with my grandmother (Dragica Vučinovec-Crnkovich) in the 1970's, nor time to translate the parts that are in Croatian. I have files on many of the ancestors that include everything I've been able to find about individuals. I have especially numerous files for Cvjetko Rubetić and the Ivanić/Zagreb relatives in the 19th-20th centuries. I also have quite a few photographs. The information is organized by person, but within each person's file there's little organization. You can see that we have plenty of cousins and other relatives in Croatia on the Rubetić/Vučinovec side, in Ivanićgrad and Zagreb. Unfortunately, the Crnković clan name has died out in Croatia and there is only one direct descendant of that family, Gordan Karlić in Zagreb. There are, however, some very, very distantly related Crnković's in Viduševac near Glina. All in all, the family history is filled with much more interesting material than one can convey in summaries and charts, including demotions in the army for bar fights, Buchenwald survivors, Napoleonic wars, gutsy moves to America, parties at the vineyard, and unanticipated half-siblings. Stay tuned.... I'm sorry that I'll miss some of you in Lancaster next month, but am looking forward to talking too much to those of you whom I will see. Take care, Uncle Denis P.s. I am not sure of some of the information on the charts, especially after my generation, so please send me corrections and additions so I can correct them. That way when some historian writes the history of our "illustrious" family sometime in the 22nd century the information will be correct. +